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AI 회의론자 에드 지트론의 예측은 얼마나 맞았을까

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핵커뉴스에 올라온 이 글은 가장 널리 인용되는 AI 회의론자인 에드 지트론(Ed Zitron)의 예측을 실제 데이터로 검증한다. 저자는 2024년 지트론이 메타·구글·마이크로소프트가 '죽어가는 기업'이며 AI를 필사적으로 끌어들이고 있다고 주장했지만, 세 회사 모두 매출과 영업이익이 오히려 가파르게 성장하고 있음을 수치로 보여준다. 저자는 특별한 AI 관련 이해관계 없이 정확성에만 초점을 맞춰 분석했다고 밝히며, 지트론의 추론이 사실과 어긋난다고 결론짓는다.

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내가 본 가장 널리 인용되는 AI 회의론자인 에드 지트론(Ed Zitron)의 예측이 얼마나 잘 맞아떨어졌는지 궁금해서 그의 예측이 어떻게 되었는지 살펴보았다. 먼저 나 자신의 편향을 밝히자면, 나는 AI 발전에 대해 강하게 찬성하거나 반대하는 입장을 취해 본 적이 없다. 예를 들어 2022년에 커즈와일(Kurzweil) 같은 존경받는 인물들을 포함해 미래주의자들이 내린 예측을 종합적으로 검토한 적이 있는데, 예측 결과 면에서나 그 이론적 근거 면에서나 대체로 틀렸다는 것을 발견했다. 반대로 2015년에는 사람들이 AI가 인간을 일자리에서 대체할 능력을 과소평가하고 있다는 글을 썼고, 이후로도 많은 사람이 AI의 일자리 대체 능력을 과소평가하고 있다고 공개적으로 여러 차례 말해왔다. 내 AI에 대한 입장은 지극히 지루하게도 기본적으로 "지금 실제로 일어나고 있는 일이라면, 그것이 결코 일어날 수 없다고 말하는 사람들은 아마 틀렸을 것"이라는 것이다.

AI 회의론자에게 반박하는 사람이 나타났을 때 회의론자들이 자주 하는 말 중 하나는, AI가 가짜가 아니라고 말하는 사람들은 모두 이해관계가 얽힌 거짓말쟁이라는 것이다. 개인적으로(명백히 나에게 불리하게도) 나는 AI 기업에 특별한 금전적 이해관계가 없다. 지루한 인덱스 펀드를 통해 보유한 평범한 몫 말고는 없다. 시드 단계 투자를 좀 하고 있지만, 시기와 어떤 기업이 컸는지에 따라 내 포트폴리오의 그 부분은 AI 비중이 낮다. 나는 AI 연구소나 AI 연구소에 공급하는 회사에 다니지 않는다. 예전에 면접을 형편없이 못한다고 언급한 적이 있는데, 몇 년 전 한 AI 연구소 면접을 봤고 전화 스크리닝에서 떨어졌다. 그 정도의 실력이라면 제프 앳우드(Jeff Atwood)의 유명한 글 "왜 프로그래머들은... 프로그래밍을 못하는가"에 영감을 줬을 만한 수준이었다. 그는 프로그래밍을 할 줄 아는 사람이라면 그렇게까지 코딩 면접을 망칠 수는 없으니 가짜 프로그래머가 많이 있음에 틀림없다고 결론지었다. AI가 잘되어도 나는 광범위한 인덱스 펀드 보유자가 얻는 만큼의 혜택 외에는 특별히 이득이 없다. 다만 정확성에는 관심이 있다.

2024년: 메타, 구글, 마이크로소프트는 죽어가고 있다

예측 결과가 꽤 많기 때문에 전체 목록을 보기 전에 하나를 자세히 살펴보면서 지트론이 어떤 종류의 추론을 사용하는지 파악해보자. 2024년 11월 강연에서 지트론은 여러 말 중에서도 주요 기술 기업들(메타, 구글 등)은 죽어가고 있으며, 성장 방법을 모르기 때문에 AI를 붙잡고 허우적거리고 있다고 말했다. 지트론은 특히 메타를 죽어가는 기업으로 지목했다("죽어가는 제품이자, 일종의 죽어가는 기업이다").

메타의 매출과 이익(GAAP 영업이익) 추이는 다음과 같다:

기간 | 매출 | 이익 2023년 | 1,350억 달러 (16%) | 470억 달러 (62%) 2024년 | 1,650억 달러 (22%) | 690억 달러 (48%) 2025년 | 2,010억 달러 (22%) | 830억 달러 (20%) 2026년 상반기 | 1,170억 달러 (30%) | 420억 달러 (10%)

그가 기업들이 성장 방법을 모른다고 말하면서("이 기업들 중 그 어느 곳도 더 이상 정말로 성장하는 방법을 모른다... 죽어가는 생태계에서 성장을 재점화하려는 절박함 속에서 기술 업계는 이런 AI 쓰레기를 모든 곳에 밀어 넣을 것이다") 구글을 언급하고 이어서 마이크로소프트를 언급했다.

알파벳(구글의 모회사)의 매출과 이익 수치는 다음과 같다:

기간 | 매출 | 이익 2023년 | 3,070억 달러 (9%) | 840억 달러 (13%) 2024년 | 3,500억 달러 (14%) | 1,120억 달러 (33%) 2025년 | 4,030억 달러 (15%) | 1,290억 달러 (15%) 2026년 상반기 | 2,300억 달러 (23%) | 800억 달러 (30%)

마이크로소프트의 수치는 다음과 같다(일관성을 위해 모든 수치는 회계연도가 아닌 역연도 기준이다):

기간 | 매출 | 이익 2023년 | 2,280억 달러 (12%) | 1,010억 달러 (21%) 2024년 | 2,620억 달러 (15%) | 1,180억 달러 (17%) 2025년 | 3,050억 달러 (17%) | 1,430억 달러 (21%) 2026년 상반기 | 1,730억 달러 (18%) | 790억 달러 (19%)

지트론의 발언 취지에는 맞지 않지만, 메타가 실제로 죽어가고 있다고, 아직 죽지 않았을 뿐이라고 주장할 수는 있을 것이다. 그러나 지트론 논거의 추론은 여기서 틀렸다. 메타, 구글, 마이크로소프트의 생태계는 죽어가고 있지 않다. 이 기업들이 매출과 이익 면에서 이렇게 빠르게 성장하고 있다는 점을 고려하면, 지트론이 암시했듯 AI가 그들이 붙잡는 일종의 절박한 몸부림인 것으로 보이지는 않는다.

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I was curious how well the predictions of the most widely cited AI skeptic I've seen (Ed Zitron) have done, so I looked at how his predictions panned out. To disclose my own biases, I've never had a particularly strong pro or anti AI progress position. For example, in 2022, I did a comprehensive look at predictions Futurists made, including well-respected folks like Kurzweil and found them to be generally wrong on both the prediction results as well as the reasoning. On the flip side, in 2015, I wrote about how people were underestimating AI's ability to displace humans in jobs and have repeatedly been on the record as saying that many people are underestimating AI's ability to displace humans from jobs. My position on AI has been extremely boring and is basically, "if something is currently happening, the people who are saying that it's impossible that it will ever happen are probably wrong". One comment I've seen from a lot of AI skeptics when someone responds to an AI skeptic is that all of the people who are saying that AI isn't fake are self-interested liars. Personally (to my obvious detriment), I have no particular financial interest in AI companies. I own whatever the standard share of them is via boring index funds. I have some seed stage investments, but just due to the timing and what's gotten big, that part of my portfolio is underweight on AI. I don't work at an AI lab or a company that supplies AI labs. I've mentioned being hilariously bad at interviews before, and I did interview at an AI lab a number of years ago and failed the phone screen in a performance that was the kind of performance that must've inspired Jeff Atwood's famous Why Can’t Programmers... Program? where he concludes that there must be a lot of fake programmers out there because nobody could fail a coding interview that badly if they knew how to program. I don't benefit in any particular way if AI does well, except insofar as anyone who holds broad index funds benefits, but I do care about accuracy. 2024: Meta, Google, and Microsoft are dying Because there are quite a few prediction results, let's look at one in detail before the complete list to get an idea of the kind of reasoning Zitron uses. We'll arbitrarily look at this November 2024 talk where Zitron says, among other things, the major tech companies (like Meta and Google) are dying and they're thrashing around on AI because they don't know how to grow . Zitron specifically named Meta as a company that's dying ("it's a dying product, and it's kind of a dying company"). Meta's revenue and profit (GAAP operating income) have been Period Revenue Profit Amount % Amount % 2023 $135B 16% $47B 62% 2024 $165B 22% $69B 48% 2025 $201B 22% $83B 20% First half 2026 $117B 30% $42B 10% When he talked about companies not knowing how to grow ("none of these companies anymore really know how to grow ... in the desperation to try to reignite growth in a dying ecosystem the tech industry is going to shove this [AI] shit into everything"), he named Google and then Microsoft. Alphabet (Google's parent company) has had the following revenue and profit numbers: Period Revenue Profit Amount % Amount % 2023 $307B 9% $84B 13% 2024 $350B 14% $112B 33% 2025 $403B 15% $129B 15% First half 2026 $230B 23% $80B 30% And Microsoft's numbers have been (note that, for consistency, all numbers are calendar year numbers and not fiscal year numbers): Period Revenue Profit Amount % Amount % 2023 $228B 12% $101B 21% 2024 $262B 15% $118B 17% 2025 $305B 17% $143B 21% First half 2026 $173B 18% $79B 19% Although this wouldn't be in the spirit of Zitron's statement, one could argue that Meta is actually dying, it just hasn't died yet. However, the reasoning in Zitron's argument is incorrect here—the Meta, Google, and Microsoft ecosystems are not dying. Given how fast these companies are growing (in terms of revenue and profit), it doesn't seem that AI is, as Zitron implied, some kind of desperation move they're reaching for because "they don't know how to grow" and are all out of ideas. I don't think it's worth spending this much text on each prediction, but the pattern Zitron used here is illustrative. To make the case that these things are dying, he pulls on minor issues that are not positioned to cause the very large changes he suggests are about to occur. For Meta, he cited some kind of alleged MAU drop for Facebook. Rather than use Meta's own MAU figures or any kind of revenue or profit numbers, he seems to have used numbers from Similarweb. My experience with 3rd party tracking numbers like this is that they're quite inaccurate and generally useless for anything other than a rough order of magnitude comparison, making the Zitron's cited decline meaningless (Meta's reported numbers show no such sustained decline). For Google, he cites Prabhakar Raghavan, who he calls truly evil and "a computer scientist class traitor that sided with the management consultancy sect", as having done some kind of grievous damage to Google search. In his rants about Raghavan, he never credibly establishes that Raghavan is doing severe harm to Google search, and the Google search engineers who've commented on his rant don't seem to agree with the Raghavan as sole or even major reason for search issues hypothesis . 1 But even if we posit that Zitron is right and the villain Prabhakar Raghavan defeated the hero Ben Gomes, causing some kind of issue for Google search, this still doesn't make the case that Google revenue growth is in trouble at large because they have a number of other major products (such as YouTube and Google Cloud) that could drive growth even if search wasn't growing. Every significant part of the chain of reasoning here is not only incorrect, it's not plausible if you know anything about Google or big companies in general. I'll be the first person to say that Google search quality has some serious problems and that Google has been increasing the relative priority of revenue over the user experience over time. This was a source of consternation for a number of user-focused engineers at Google when I was there in 2013. For one of the issues Zitron cites, ads being confusing to users, in 2013, I asked a search engineer about Google changing the background color of ads to look more like search results because there was a previous study that showed that more an ad looked like a search result, the more users got confused over whether a result was an ad or a real search result, and I'd heard that Google deliberately made the ads not look like search results to avoid user confusion. The search engineer said that because some people didn't want users to get confused, it was impossible to make ads nearly identical to search results in a single change because it would be too obvious what's going on. The way this was going to happen was that every time you A/B test tweaking ads to look a bit closer to search results, you make a lot more money, so the change would happen over multiple years in multiple parts, each small enough that the people who want to fight back against this kind of thing would have a hard time making a case. That happened just as this engineer predicted, but it was going to happen whether or not Raghavan ended up overseeing search. And, of course, that kind of thing happening doesn't cause Google to run out of room to grow and become desperate to reignite growth in a dying ecosystem. Whether or not you think Google should do it, it's something that makes Google more money. How do people cite Zitron? From what I can tell of how people cite Zitron, they cite him as an authority so they can say that this guy who looked at the numbers has made this claim, so their claim is backed up by the numbers. It turns out that if you look at the claims Zitron makes and know anything about the topic, the claims don't make sense, but I don't think that's the point. The point is one can say that someone looked at the numbers. The other point seems to be that this